several republicans and of course john kasich, the governor of pennsylvania. so in terms of 2016, this is the first open election on both sides and in 2008 i expect we'll have a lurch bill of candidate that she is going to be a very phenomenal candidate. there's a lot going where she beat jeb bush and marco rubio by double digits. she thought it would be a strong candidate. joe biden is strong candidate and we have an enormous number of good governors. martin of mali, governor cuomo of colorado. so i'm excited. >> are never going to complain. >> part of barack obama's appeal was young and vibrant. [inaudible] [laughter] >> in presidential politics -- as the country moves to a next generation of readership, they rarely if ever reach back and bring in an older generation. to a certain extent that was a factor for senator mccain in running against president obama in part the effect of governor romney right now and that is an interesting dynamic answers out of the two most likely nominees are going to be on the democratic side. there's a lot of pressure leadership